The History of Witchgrove

 

It’s a strange notion to be writing a history of a yahoo group.  Normally histories involve big, world-changing events, dead people and leaders with weapons enough to kill a large number of people.   Even with a Socialist hat on, which proclaims that the histories of the ‘little people’ are more important than those of kings and queens, it feels faintly ridiculous to be contemplating writing about a three-year-old mailing list.   But four nights ago, I was driving home with another Grover in the car.  We were discussing the effort that goes into maintaining a group like this and I said to her, ‘But, at the end of the day, it’s just another yahoo group, isn’t it?’   ‘No,’ she replied, ‘it’s much more than that.   There have been times that it’s saved my life.’   I concurred.  It’s worth a history.

 

2002

 

Witchgrove was born on March 22nd, 2002, at 7.00pm (GMT).   For both Cerridwyn Morganne (Cerr), the creator actually pressing the relevant buttons in order for it to exist, and Chelle, the first person to enter the Grove after Cerr and subsequent joint list-owner, it was just after 11am on a Las Vegas morning.  

 

 

‘Witchgrove's birth was something of an emergency c-section if you will.....that was quite a day - see, many of us started together on another list which went down under *very* confusing circumstances. The listowner delisted 300 members without warning and then less than a week later sent the mods (including Chelle and myself) an email saying the list would be deleted, so long.  Chelle and I, being on the phone as this was happening, decided to try to keep everyone together because that list had truly meant something to us and I know to others as well.  Chelle tried to pull together email addys, so we could invite the members while I created Witchgrove.

It was that fast, truly, took maybe 20 minutes all told to get the Grove set up, addy's entered into the invite function....at a certain point both Chelle and I were in looking at addys and clicked "Next" and got the message "this list does not exist."

*sigh*

It was devastating - we knew it was coming any minute but the reality of it was....erhm....what's the word......there isn't one, so I'll just say it again: devastating. So we sat huddled on the phone together and finally started letting out breath as people started to accept their invitations…’

Cerr, list mama

      http://www.witchgrove.org/Cerrinterview.htm

 

 

So what happened that day?  Who were the first Grovers and what was the atmosphere like?   This can be reconstructed.  For a start, we know that Cerr set the clock to European time, because those are the times presented in the archives and on the messages now.

 

Here is what that first day must have been like for Cerr and Chelle.  Between 11am and 10 past 11, Cerr was writing welcome documents, which are more or less those which are still automatically sent to newcomers today, and setting the group policies and access features.  At 8 minutes past 11am, Chelle joined the Grove and was immediately made list-owner.   We can suppose that the next half an hour was spent getting the invitations out, because the first member, bstiles, joined at 11.36am. 

 

Anna joined at 11.57am and was made a moderator at 24 minutes past 12.  By then, Osran (11.53), Aella (11.55) and Minerva Ravenwing (11.56)  had already joined.   A steady trickle of members entered the gates of this brand, new Grove thereon.   Seishina (12.18); jakedefannon (12.23); Blind Owl (12.30); Wolfdreamer (12.39); Rhiannonsolana (12.40);  Thorney (12.55); Georgia was in at 1.11, followed by Bella at 1.18pm; Dantalian and Morganna Skye were together (1.29pm);  ajbauer (1.49);  rljardine (1.51);  witchywm (2.23); njwills (2.39);  2.54pm:  Pixie arrived, followed by taotegreen at (3.19) and Faithweaver (3.25);  Shewolf was in at 3.57;  Jeninia (4.19); Ariana was in at 5.16pm, followed by Mab at 5.24; Epona-bri (6.31pm); Cailleach (6.55), followed by Moonstone Catseyes (6.56); Moondust (7.02); beateat (7.09); Lady Kenco (7.18); Angel (8pm); Genhorrall (8.09); mrsswar1966 (that you BudoftheRose?) (8.32); Flightless Angel wandered in at 10.18pm.  47 minutes past midnight, in walked Aisha; Hermwtch (1.43am); Ladydragonfly at 2.20, followed by Sylvie at 2.24am; Chelle was up at 5am approving Mab’s work e-mail address and Missy’s application to join; Patti (6.07am); the reflecting god (6.27am – Chelle was still up to approve him); then Bella joined AGAIN at 6.59am.   Those were the 43 members of Witchgrove here a full day after Cerr had first created the group; anyone else who tells you that they were there on day one, feel free to raise your eyebrows… 

 

The next few weeks brought another trickle of members, amongst them were Mikey, Cabochon (who was immediately made British mod), Rhiannon Astara, Blind Owl, Saoirse, Mgk Girl, Sara Jean, Laurie, Niamh Onara, Saoirse, Ivy Wolfmoon and Ocean, who are all still members now.  

 

 

‘The early days of witchgrove... hmmm I remember thinking how things were new and exciting, things had changed suddenly but with the love and determination of you all, we are still here and fiestier (is that a word? LOL) than ever.


Witchgrove is a second family, I know of births, deaths, divorces, marriages. All these things I am a part of.


Happy Birthday Witchgrove, and to the wonderful mods who keep it like it is.. I'm grateful for all of you!!’

 

Love,
Heather,

one of 43 Witchgrovers who joined in the first 24 hours

 

 

‘Oh I sure remember.  I first felt scared that witchlight was gone. Then I got the invite to witchgrove, and I was so relieved. 

 

You see for many years, I was such a solitary witch.  When I first got my computer and discovered witchy groups, I was happy. Then found most of them were rife with fighting about the right way to do it.  This group..... witchgrove and a couple others are in the few where we rarely fight.

 

    Witchgrove is my home.’

 

 Minerva Ravenwing,

 one of 43 Witchgrovers who joined in the first 24 hours

 

 

‘I was checking emails when the other list disappeared.  I immediately in a panic emailed Shonna asking what happened.  She told me a bit and said they were working on the invites.’

 

Georgia, one of 43 Witchgrovers who joined in the first 24 hours

 

 

‘The Early days of Witchgrove, I remember the days BEFORE Witchgrove, and what actions and decisions were made that in essense brought death to one group and, from this death, birth was given to a new group, Witchgrove.

 

I remember feeling chaos, at the death of the one group, fear that we would not all find our way back to each other and then extreme relief with the birth of Witchgrove, all in a matter of a few hours!

 

I remember in the first days it was a haven for those that had lost much with the death of the other group; Witchgrove was different, but we were still together.

 

I remember watching and participating as the group changed and evolved in a short amount of time to become even better then the old group that it was given birth from. Like a phoenix rising from the ashes, better, stronger, more solid, more magical then before, this is what Witchgrove was then... but it is even MORE NOW!’

 

Shewolf Silver Shadows, one of 43 Witchgrovers who joined in the first 24 hours

 

 

‘I remember the Early days as starting out a little hectic and then settling down into it's own skin.  It was a safe place to fall and regroup; still is. :-) It's a friendship, a community but mostly it's what I've come to looks at as my extended family.’

 

Jeninia, one of 43 Witchgrovers who joined in the first 24 hours

 

‘Well one of my main memories of WG is that there were many friendly faces.  Great friendships were made very fast.  We were all thrown together in a weird old way, but  got along so very well. 

 

The list helped me through VERY hard times back then, and so I dont have many memories of the happy times, but I am grateful for the help that many did give.  The list as I remember was very loving, always willing to help in any way they could and a great place to learn and share what we think and feel.

 

I would like to wish WG a very Happy 3rd Birthday, and hopefully the list will continue through to many more birthdays.  Love to all of you, and pass on my love to anyone that still remembers me on list.’

 

Love and Light

LadyK, one of 43 Witchgrovers who   joined in the first 24 hours

 

 

‘I remember the grove as a place that I could turn to
for support, advice, a good laugh & a place to learn,
as there were always a source of information. Also, a place I could turn for clarification... the members would offer feedback if I had a concern to post, or do a short reading. Overall it was an online community where your opinions could be aired with a feeling of safety and support or gentle opposing views.’


Happy Birthday!

Patti,

 one of 43 Witchgrovers who joined in the first 24 hours

 

 

There were 69 members by the end of March 2002;  during the next seven months, the membership remained in the mid-to-high 70s, before rising to the 80s during November and December 2002.  The posts frequently topped the 1000 mark for the first five months, then, from August 2002 onwards, gradually began falling away.  But the friendliness of the Witchgrove community remained and a wealth of information was posted, through posts or some of the earliest ‘features’, like Chelle’s Herbal Hutch, Genhorrall’s Into the Unknown, Anna’s Rune of the Week and Spirit Talks, Aisha’s The Crystal Grove, Pixie’s Pouches and Mab’s The Second Seeing.   Meanwhile, Cerr was busily filling the files, photos and art gallery and Friends of the Grove.

 

Then, on September 21st 2002, Chelle stepped down as owner and moderator of Witchgrove, leaving the group in the very capable hands of Cerr, Anna and Cabochon. 

 

 

‘Happy Birthday WitchGrove!

 

Although I stepped down as Moderator in 2002 to open The Herbal Hutch, my love & support remained with all of the mods and owner. I am so proud of all of them for the work and love they have put into this group to make it absolutely the best group on the net. Shonna, Jo, Anna, Georgia and Roxanne, all my love.. job well done!’

 

love

Chelle

 

 

 

2003

 

Witchgrove peaked at 86 members in January 2003, before slowly declining to only 67 members by June 2003.   The posts continued to fall and, in February 2003, only 295 e-mails had passed between the group – a quite respectable amount for a group like this, but not when compared to all that early enthusiasm.   They briefly picked up again by May, but were steadily falling again during the summer of 2003.

 

Also, on February 2nd 2003, Cabochon stepped down as a Witchgrove moderator.    

 

 

At the time I was doing one of my famous disappearing acts.  I wanted to be out there and doing rather than in the Grove talking and discussing.  I found that Witchgrove was a good springboard, but if I hung about too long, all I was doing was bouncing up and down on that springboard.  I wanted to dive off, then do all the things that I’d been inspired to do rather than just talk about it.’

 

Cabochon, original Witchgrove moderator.

 

 

 

Eight days later, a very shocked and suddenly terrified Mab was asked to take his place; she accepted, then spent the summer being afraid to moderate in any way, shape or form without asking Cerr and Anna’s permission first… the words ‘neither use nor ornament’ applying very nicely there.

 

Even a casual glance at the ‘statistics’ page on the website will indicate that something happened during the late summer-early autumn of that year.    Suddenly membership was rising in increments of 10 people a month, then in ever greater numbers.  By October 2003, there were just over 100 Grovers.  Even more startling, there was an influx of posts which took everyone by surprise.   In that same month, 3132 e-mails passed between a group, which had become used to counting them in the 100s and for which 1000 e-mails had been viewed as ‘very busy’. 

 

So what happened in the summer of 2003 to turn it all around?   Anna and Mab might have a few charges to answer on this score:

 

Anna:  Are we going to tell the true story then?

 

Mab:  Well, Anna and I were in chat, discussing how quiet the Grove was.  We disagreed on one fundamental point.  I said that at least the group we had all contributed; Anna thought that it was a dozen at most, each posting a lot, while everyone else lurked.  Me being me, I had to look at the evidence and make some lists.  The result was the October Pie-Chart; and I was right!  80% of the Grove contributed, while only 20% lurked.  Janice, a member at the time, told me that the norm for groups like ours are those figures reversed.   The thing was that I started the chart after only one week into October;  it caught people’s imaginations so much that I ended up keeping it going until the end of the month.  Individual Grovers got really competitive, trying to keep their position within the chart, and we were all screaming for people to de-lurk just to push the percentages up.   It ended up with folk posting any old **** because of this.   But I made my point!  LOL

 

Thing is, though Anna didn’t push her view, I knew that she could have argued that the pie chart itself affected the figures.  Which was true.  That wouldn’t have been accepted in an academic sense.  So, in the December, unbeknown to anyone, I did the chart again… and received the same results beyond all expectations!   That’s what happened in October 2003.

 

Anna:  I’d say that it was the weekly discussions – they started in September 2003.  Then you had listed us on Witchvox around that time, which brought a lot of people in.  Let’s face it, you were practically dragging people in off the streets at one time.   The website…

 

Mab: That was September 2003 as well, because it coincided with the weekly discussions starting.

 

Anna:  Check the Anniversary piece that I wrote, that will tell you about those.

 

Mab:  So you’re saying that what happened in summer and autumn 2003 is that I finally got off my backside and went from doing fuck all to actually doing something.

 

Anna:  I’m saying that Witchgrove has growing pains.  It grows and grows, sometimes it stops and baggage falls off the cart, then it carries on moving.  And, on a personal note, I want to add that my skills, with runes and spirit guides, would not have improved as much as they did if it hadn’t been for Witchgrove.  I wouldn’t have had the place to do it in.

 

Cerr:  What happened was that I was cranky and so our lovely and talented Mab went on a membership drive.  Suddenly we were everywhere on the internet.  I wish I could have theme music for this.  I think that Mab’s membership drive should have theme music.

 

Mab:    And we had a competition  in October 2003 as well.

 

As a result of all of this activity, the mods became so utterly overwhelmed that the decision was taken to get more help. Though there were several people who could have been asked; ultimately Georgia and Roxanne joined them, on 9th November 2003, because ‘they feel like home.  Roxanne’s sense of humour keeps us on an even keel; while Georgia’s got a great sense of humour too, but also a really straight-forward attitude,’ explained Cerr.     She was in her first month of pregnancy and extremely ill.  For a few weeks, the Grove was almost entirely handed over the other four, though she was always there for advice and comment in the Mods’ Lounge.  ‘I know I can trust the Mods and we work together well.  We have each other’s backs and we call each other on our shit… quite often, in fact… but I would trust every Mod with my family and my sanity.  I have.’

 

 

‘Personally I was quite tickled by being asked.

 

It's different from being a member in that we have to try and make everything run smooth.  Try to keep feathers from being ruffled.  Keeping people feeling wanted and loved.

 

BUSY!  I've learned a lot of about human interaction.  I've learned to tune into emails and feel what the person is trying not to say but wants to.’

 

Georgia, Witchgrove Moderator

 

 

When they asked me to be a mod they said I had to wear this outfit, if it wasn’t for the shoes with bells and the use of multi colored satin I would have said no… but I was swayed by the odd fashion sense of it all and assured by the existing Mod group that it was normal and considered proper for new moderators.

 

The hat is alright, but the bells hanging off the end have whacked me in the eye and caused a bit of trauma on occasion.  To this day I’m still a little freaked out by the Fimo likeness of myself that Shonna made for me and put on this stick for me to carry around.

 

I’m still trying to figure out when the other girls will be wearing their outfits… I mean, I’m not complaining or anything but, I’ve been here for a while and I still have to taste Shonna’s food before she eats it.

 

What can I say… it’s a tough job… but somebody’s got to do it.  And I don’t care what they make me wear… I love being here.

 

Roxanne, Witchgrove Moderator.

 

 

 

While much has been made above of the role played by the Mods, Witchgrove was and is much more than the seven people who have volunteered for that position during its three year history.  Cerr considered why it has been so successful,

 

‘The key thing is the people.  We’ve had psychopaths from time to time, but we haven’t had as many as most lists.  I think this is due to the mutual respect people have for each other and their traditions.  Egos really are checked at the door.  The decision to keep mainstream politics off the Grove has had the knock on effect of keeping Pagan politics off too; and people really do try to contribute without the need for power trips.  One person’s gifts will complement another’s, and there’s no need for everyone to have the same gifts.  We truly are a community.  Yes, we are a mailing list, but call it a cacklefest, a moot or whatever, we’ve proved that on-line communities do work.  And there’s real magic in our community.’

 

Those within the Grove don’t need to be told this; but for those outside, nowhere is this more evident than the website,  which had its genesis in 2003.

 

 

‘The website was mainly Ivy Wolfmoon’s fault.  It was around the May in 2003 and she posted that it would be great if Witchgrove had a website.  A quick question in the Mods showed that none of us knew the first thing about it, so I went scutting around the freeserve site and discovered a fairly idiotproof one.  It had boxes to fill in text and another to stick a picture in.  That was the first site, but it was very limited compared to the ideas that the Grove had for what they wanted putting in it; also it wouldn’t allow the code necessary to protect Jeninia’s artwork, so never officially went live.

 

In the October, I had a crash course from two of  the www.friendsoftheheroes.co.uk members on what an ftp server was and how a web-page should look.  I sat there using google and searching things like ‘html + image’ and by the end of October 2003, we had the second site.   I remember that month, I was so stressed.  Warriormail Mike interupted me three seconds after I’d just accidentally lost a page that had taken me forever to create.  I nearly bit his head off and had to apologize profusely afterwards.  The computer nearly went through the window.  But, as time has gone on, I’ve learned enough skills to keep it running without the minor nervous breakdowns on my part.

 

Even that site outgrew what we wanted for it; and a year later, Dani bought the server which now houses our third (and hopefully final!) site www.witchgrove.org, which went live in January 2005.  Until then, I was the only person with access to it, so became the website mod by default; but now, Pixie and Dani both have access and there is a team of people who all have much more experience than I have, who could help out.’

 

Mab, Website Moderator

 

 

 

The website was truly a collaborative venture.  As well as the content, which has been freely submitted by hundreds of Grove members, there were unseen contributions.   In 2003-2004, Faithweaver created the link to the shopping mall; Howard found the sparkling stars, which make up the background of every page; Jeninia and Draig created the banners, which other sites can use to link back to us; Pixie created the raffle ticket image and its page, while also changing the wording to alert people to an upcoming raffle; Kate the Bookshop found the map, which pin-points where Grovers are all over the world; while Jeninia submitted two Witchgrove pictures, one of which has constantly lived on the front page; and Jodi produced the photograph of all five Mods, despite not all five having been in the same place at the same time... (magic)  

 

Other than the weekly discussions, only two other ‘features’ were introduced and collected into the Witchgrove files, these were Mab’s Tarot Tales and Simon’s Science Space.

 

2004

 

For the entire of 2004, posts were frequently topping the 4000-5000 mark and the membership continued to grow.  By January 2004, there were 150 Grovers; four months later there were just over 200; and this figure has risen slightly thereon, until today, there are nearly 250 members of Witchgrove.   Everything should have been wonderful and, by and large, on-list it was, but off-list was sometimes a very different story.  

 

An extremely difficult and worrisome pregnancy rendered Cerr’s participation in her group to a minimum, a situation which left her miserable, feeling very guilty and occasionally prone to prescription drug-enduced paranoia.   On March 11th, 2004, Mab was involved in a car accident, which not only left her in agony for much of the spring and summer of that year, but also shook her brain severely enough to render her emotional, paranoid and with a marked lack of concentration.  Also, between April and August 2004, five of her friends died or were killed. As neither of them particularly recognized their highly altered outlook on life, the onus fell on Anna, Georgia and Roxanne to keep both the Mods’ Lounge and Witchgrove itself calmly and smoothly running.   Less physically debilitating, but perhaps more emotionally destructive, Georgia was also going through her divorce and Roxanne’s sister-in-law was diagnozed with cancer.

 

But it wasn’t all paranoia.  In May 2004, a member became upset and started flaming on-list.  Immediately moderated, he turned his ire towards Cerr in a series of threatening e-mails.  Seven months pregnant, Cerr laughed off being called ‘a skanky whore’ (now her affectionately meant nickname in the Mods’ Lounge), but the incident shook Roxanne to the core.  Reassuring her that this happened occasionally wasn’t helped when another member publicly questioned Cerr’s suitability to be list-mama a few days later; followed by a third incident, in June 2004, when a political row on Kindly Ones got carried over onto Witchgrove.  Mab got caught in the cross-fire this time as the member, not realizing that she was the list-owner of Kindly Ones, e-mailed her with the torrent of abuse which he’d expected to go privately to Cerr.  

 

All five Mods found their inboxes frequently bulging with daily off-list Witchgrove-related e-mails, caused in part by their increased circle of friends, but also as a direct result of the growth of the group and the visible, but unmoderated presense of the blogs.   Members could flame each other with impunity in those privately owned forums, which caused tension mostly off-list, but sometimes spilling into innuendo on-list.  The decision was taken early on that a) no attempt would be made to interfere with blog/live journal content; b) as long as the individual was a member, their blog would remain on the list unless its owner requested otherwise; and c) the blog list would remain in the Private Members’ area on the web-site.  Consequently, all five Mods constantly found themselves forced into a conciliatory position, which might have been easier to adapt to had the remit simply been to keep trouble off the Grove, but unfortunately they usually involved their friends too.

 

One particularly distressing incident involved a Grover being stalked by another member.  The result of this meant that all applicants were traced by Mab and if their location matched that of the stalker, then they were not automatically approved; also new applicants became moderated until they had posted to prove they weren’t the stalker lurking for more information.  The (moderated) or (unmoderated) tag after their name also defines them as a member who has joined since ALL of the stalker’s known identities had been removed from the Grove.  This policy has not only twice intercepted the stalker whilst attempting to re-enter, but also stopped a troll using his first post to flame.

 

August 22nd 2004 devastated the Grove.   Warriormail Mike had first introduced himself on October 7th 2003 and had since become one of the more universally beloved members; but had suffered an accident at work on August 21st and the next day, Cerr, in touch with his family, made the tragic announcement that he had died aged only 26 years old.

 

Twice the off-list flaming actually hit the list in a big way.  The first time, in September 2004, resulted in Cerr announcing an official break from the Grove.  Two days later, despite the best efforts of Mods and members alike, the flaming continued to such an extent that Roxanne announced drastic action – the Grove would be allowed to war all it liked until Monday, then anyone still doing so would be either moderated or removed.  In effect, for two days, the Mods became members only and, by the Monday, it was all over.

 

The second time off-list flaming spilled notably on-list, in November 2004, it was Mab who was forced to step down for a while.   A year of intense pressure (mostly not directly Witchgrove-related) had finally taken its toll and she was going a little strange.   Trying to research and write an MA dissertation, while also holding down a full-time job, sort out the website AND be a Witchgrove moderator during a time of flaming resulted in Roxanne and Georgia trying to keep her talking while her mind went into some very weird and dangerous places.   Next day, Mab took the gentle suggestions to take a break more literally than they were intended.    Instead of simply switching herself to no mail on the Mods group, while Georgia asked the Grove to post her rather than Mab with any off-lists, Mab started demoting herself, with a view to leaving Mods entirely and becoming a member on the Grove.   Halfway through the process, Draig Athar ‘phoned her and was met with a very tearful Grover.  That ‘phone call is the main reason that most of the Grove didn’t know that Mab wasn’t a mod between Nov 2004-Jan 2005.

 

 

‘I was crying all over Draig and she was trying to calm me down, saying that it would all be alright in the end and everyone was just worried about me.   I was still sitting in front of my keyboard and suddenly there’s an e-mail off Cerr going ‘NOOOOOOOOO!!’ She stated categorically that I’d got the wrong end of the stick and she did want me to back away, but not go completely.  She created a new title for me ‘Mod on Leave’ and poor Draig was in danger of having her eardrum perforated by me screaming down the ‘phone at her.  

 

After that, the website got handed over to Pixie and Dani; and I became a member of the Mods’ group (which I still am).   I was a member of the Grove in all but name, though I still had all the extra buttons to play with.  I think that people pretty much did know what was going on, because whereas I averaged 300-odd e-mails before, they just dropped off very quickly and those who did e-mail me tended to be telling me how wonderful the world was these days…’

 

Mab, Witchgrove Moderator

 

 

‘It’s not always been the case on other lists, but on Witchgrove I think that the number of Mods has saved us.  We’ve kept each other breathing; watched each other’s backs; and if one person is starting to fall down the cracks, then the others are there to pull her out again.   It’s a beautiful thing and it’s got me back before.

 

Mab isn’t just a Mod.  She’s a soul-sister and I wasn’t prepared to lose her.’

 

Cerr, list-mama

 

 

 

At the end of July 2004, Mab, Pixie and Dani had discussed moving the website fully to a paid server, which they were each prepared to contribute to the payment of.  This idea solved the issue whereby, if Mab was removed from the equation, the website would be inaccessible.  There was also the fact that the maintenance of the website was, by now, a huge undertaking which needed more than one person doing it; particularly when that person was due to start writing her MA dissertation in the November.  The idea was that, at that time, the site could be fully handed over to the others. 

 

Within a week, they were all ready to go.  Dani had identified a server and an enthusiastic team of web-site savvy Grovers were filling a dedicated Yahoo group with ideas about how to develop it.   Unfortunately, the combination of a delay in the decision to go ahead at Mods level coupled with a series of huge events on and off list distracting them away from a response, meant that it took a persuasive trip to Vegas, in October 2004, by Mab to secure the permission to move the website. 

 

Immediately Dani bought the server and Pixie bought the domain name.  Then proceedings halted again.  A template for a new-look site, voted as favourite by the entire of Witchgrove, didn’t turn up.   In the meantime, Mab moved the old site onto the new server, which effectively closed the site to updates.  Further disaster struck when Dani’s mother passed over followed by other major personal troubles, which, understandably, took her away from the helm.    By November 2004, responsibility for the site effectively passed to an increasingly worried Pixie. Without any real information about what was intended with it and a lack of communication from Mab and Dani, there wasn’t much she could realistically do and so, except for brief bursts of updating, the site remained closed until 2005.

 

 

‘So Pixie put on her little purple kimono and said  "Little dreadheaded grasshopper, good things come to those with patience". Then wandered off through the Grove with her funny Japanese shoes clunking against the floor and dribbling chai down the front of her silk robes, hollaring for someone to find the bottle of Jameson's Irish Whiskey.’

 

Pixie, one of 43 Witchgrovers who joined in the first 24 hours; now it’s Treasurer, website moderator and general heroine

 

 

 

2004 wasn’t all doom and gloom.  Even in the midst of that, the mods slowly, but surely learned the valuable lesson that they weren’t solely responsible for the smooth running of the Grove.  It’s members proved time and time again that they too would leap in to calm ruffled feathers, in sorrow, despair, fury and just plain letting the Mods know.  Increasingly, members also had the confidence to organize things themselves, for example, Draig’s Card Swop and Pixie’s ‘Strengthening Your Psychic Muscle’.  It had always been true, it just took a while for it to sink in. ;-)

 

And there was a lot to celebrate.   This was the year of Grove meet-ups: 

 

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Georgia came to Wolverhampton, then Glastonbury, in August 2004

 

Grove Gathering (with friends) in Las Vegas

 

A massive gathering of Grovers took place in Vegas, in October 2004 – as well as the local people, Mab, Pixie, Bella, Georgia and Anna all made it there.

 

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Draig Athar went to Vegas in November 2004

 

Also

 

 

Branny flew to join the Black Country gang in Glastonbury and Wolverhampton in November 2004.

 

A great many other causes for celebration have already been documented in This Month in the Grove.

 

 

2005

 

Membership of Witchgrove rose from 226 people to nearly 250 on its third birthday; while the number of posts started falling, but the group still generated an average of 107 e-mails a day.   In January 2005, Mab finished her dissertation and immediately corrected all the links on the website in order to relaunch it.  While she continues to handle the bulk of the up-dating, Pixie has frequently lent a hand or taken over whole projects, like the raffle.

 

Andrea Wakely became the Grove’s fundraiser in February 2005; while Pixie became its treasurer.   The site was paid for originally by Dani, Pixie and Mab, in 2004, but all three were paid back by the proceeds of a single, successful raffle, organized by Andrea, with many Grovers purchasing tickets.   At the time of writing, another raffle is in the process of being held, the proceeds of which will (hopefully) pay for the website for another year.

 

The Grove goes on.